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Poster: c-freedom Date: May 21, 2014 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

Aggregate weight,drug classifications and penalty group sentencing:

http://news.yahoo.com/teen-could-face-life-cops-pot-brownies-195836948.html

key quote:

"Also, because Lavoro used hash oil, prosecutors can aggregate the weight of the brownies and charge him with manufacturing and distribution of 1.5 pounds of that category of controlled substances, McDonald said.

That means, for example, that "if you dissolve cocaine into a coke, technically you could charge him with the weight of the coke,"

This post was modified by c-freedom on 2014-05-21 14:54:27

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Poster: dream and lie Date: May 26, 2014 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

Geez. That's awful. Looks like the prosecutor might be right, too:

(5) "Controlled substance" means a substance, including a drug, an adulterant, and a dilutant, listed in Schedules I through V or Penalty Groups 1, 1-A, or 2 through 4. The term includes the aggregate weight of any mixture, solution, or other substance containing a controlled substance.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/HS/htm/HS.481.htm

The federal drug laws seem to do the same thing, but oddly enough they exclude PCP, amphetamine, methamphetamine, and oxycodone. Weird.

(c and d on page 18, http://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/training/primers/Primer_Drug.pdf).

I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention.

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Poster: c-freedom Date: May 26, 2014 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

dream and lie;

I always felt that DECRIMINALIZATION
not 'legalization' was the road.
A guy just got nailed here in Florida for almost the same exact charge as the dude in Texas so obviously this is not an isolated thing.
Just like we all knew that the same 5-0 being in every city on tour was not just a coincidence.
Or the various State and local agencies all looking for exactly the same type evidence.
Heaven help the person who really believes that hidden compartment in their Jerry bear is a safe stash container.
"Inside every man's chest there beats a heart"






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Poster: dream and lie Date: May 26, 2014 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

I'm with you on alternative approaches to drug policy, and frankly, I think some legalization is in order. The advantage of outright legalization for me is that it economically undercuts illegal activity, and I just think that some illegal drugs are the sort of thing that an adult can rationally make decisions about without need for the specter of criminal penalties.

But even putting that aside, it seems pretty clear to me that punishment should be keyed to the amount of the illegal substance rather than amount of legal stuff it's mixed with. That just seems like an obvious oversight in the way the law is written. Obviously it's not less bad to have an illegal drug than it is to have an illegal drug dissolved in pasta sauce.

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Poster: c-freedom Date: May 26, 2014 8:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

Straight up 'dream and lie' so much of this seems to fall into the category of wrong place and wrong time as well as sentencing having no basis in reality.
The problem I see on the horizon for legalization is once you get out of prohibition and into "hey, go down to the store and pick up a six pack and some kind bud" it will be just like how you don't see too may stills around today. Well, I am pretty sure you won't be seeing much of the homegrown either down the road. (Alaska has a decent take on herb for personal consumption -vs- dealer/ distribution)
The Psychedelics really are a whole different kettle of fish . People smoking pot not much of a threat to da system (heck many enforcement folks puff). But the reason Dead tour drew the wrath of the DEA was the Liquid.
If someone made a film about L.S.D beyond the goofiness of 'the Trip' with Peter Fonda it would blow some minds for sure. Government experiments on 'volunteers' goes haywire, use as weapon uncontrollable, threat to domestic security.
I mean it is pretty crazy. Sounds like a plot for a Sci-Fi. Also it would seem to me that Heroin over the years has done more damage to the people of the United States especially its artists and musicians then all the bad trips on acid ever could.
But hey Liquor has ruined many lives and that's not just with the drinking and driving. Look at how that devastated the native American population circa anytime after Columbus.
I am rambling now and might break into an 'Easy Answers' chorus.
Also I can't tell you how many times I hear that a friend or loved one has gotten a 'Lung Cancer' diagnosis after quitting cigarettes 20/30 years before and wham in less than a year they are gone.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 21, 2014 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

first off, whoever thought this is a good idea is a despicable turd

secondly, if you are going to aggregate, do it right, the can of coke was in a car, so add the weight of the car, better yet, the car was on the ground, so add the weight of the planet earth...thus, he was dealing 1,000,000,000,000,000 tons of hash oil...put him away forever!!!!!!

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Poster: c-freedom Date: May 21, 2014 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

Stratocaster:

http://www.hr95.org/Deadheads.html#top

"Went to the well but the water was dry
Dipped my bucket in the clear blue sky
Looked in the bottom and what did I see?
The whole damned world looking back at me"

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Poster: stratocaster Date: May 21, 2014 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

I remember it was Deer Creek parking lot one year, maybe 91, when a head was running away from a couple of narcs through the lot, this stopped when one of the narcs pulled a hammy and came to a screeching halt and was badly limping...we all started laughing our asses off and the narcs were pissed...hahahahaha karma motherfuckers

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Poster: jackaroe_RI Date: May 21, 2014 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

Too bad it wan't two years earlier when my cousin got popped and sentenced 10 years in federal prison for conspiracy to distribute LSD at deer Creek.
A pig asked him if he knew where to score some doses. He said go ask that guy over there and pointed him out.
Transaction was made for 2 sheets and they both got cuffed and stuffed.

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Poster: c-freedom Date: May 28, 2014 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: prosecutors can aggregate (war on drUgS)

jackaroe_RI;

Tough post to read.
I found this mix of Dead Movie video and the song Liberty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgixCWjzOYU

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